From Reddit:
Hey everyone, thank you in advance for taking the time to read my story. I need some sound advice on this issue. I (26) and my husband (26) got into an argument last night because he doesn’t want me to go on a girls trip to Miami. Here’s the back story. He and I were planning a trip to miami to see his friends and my friends came up to me a little afterwards and said that they wanted to plan a trip to Miami. I discussed it with my husband to get his opinion on if we should just do one big trip together or separate. We decided to go together since it’s cheaper that way. Then we started to plan the trip. Unfortunately his friends said they weren’t able to go and another one of his friends never even responded. Which leads just him, me and my three friends. We were still planning the trip but I started to hear less and less from my husband and anything he wanted to do on the trip.
I asked him if he still wanted to go since he would be the only guy there and he’s not really cool with my friends. He said that he doesn’t think it’s a good idea for either of us to go because we’re going to be moving and it’s not a good idea financially. He never mentioned anything about this beforehand when his friends were going. Now that they aren’t going, it’s no longer a good idea. Before I continue I want to address the moving situation. At this time we’re living with my mom because we’re waiting for military housing. We’re not paying movers or anything. We don’t have a lot of stuff and we’re getting a uhaul thats going to probably be about $100. My friends and family are helping out (the same exact friends I’m going on a trip with). And I let him know that it wasn’t expensive moving out of our old apartment. We’re moving up the street, not to a different state.
This I reminded him of, and I also asked him how was it a good idea before and now your friends backed out and now you think it’s a bad idea. He said he’s always thought it was a bad idea he just didn’t say anything…
Next he said that I should use my money to save it and pay down credit card bills. Here is my issue with that. I am the finance person in the house. My husband hates when I say we need to save money and pay debt off. He tells me that I’m acting like a mom and that I don’t have the right to tell him what to do with his money. So we made an agreement that we combined our finances and everything in the household gets paid first, I.e bills, debt, groceries, saving. Whatever is left over we split it 50-50 and we can’t delight what either of the two of us do with that money since it’s our money. His words by the way. Now he’s telling me that I don’t need to spend my money to go to Miami and I need to save it to put it back into the house. I reminded him that’s done with the house hold money. We prioritize the house first before what we personally want. Whatever I have left over I’m saving my personal money to go on the trip and he can’t tell me what I’m supposed to do with my money. I also want to add he’s not saying the same thing about his personal money, just my own. I told him he can’t tell me what I can or can’t do with my personal money. That’s something we agreed on because he didn’t want that to be done to him. He said that he’s not telling me but he’s highly recommending it. But he’s literally telling what to do with my money. I’m not late on anything, I doubt pay all my bills and I tell him to the the same yet he says in doing to much.
Then he said that going on a girl trip to Miami is single people activity and a married women and shouldn’t be going to Miami. I have to he honest, that threw me for a loop. I just wanted to go on a trip with my friends. He said ” I don’t think it’s best for a married women to go on a girls trip. I know two people are married (two each other) but one girl isn’t and I just think that’s single people activities.” I asked how am I acting single for going on a trip with my friends. He said that he didn’t say I was acting single but that it’s single people activities.
I used to live in key west as a kid. We would travel to Miami a lot and I haven’t been back since. Down there we were going to key west to go see my childhood home. On top of everything, my husband has the full itinerary of what we’re going to be doing in Miami. It’s full of museums, site seeing. We don’t go to clubs and we don’t even drink.
It hurt my feeling that he thinks that of me and he’s pushing it so hard that I’m acting single if I go to Miami. But now I don’t know what to do. I feel like he’s trying to control me or he’s upset that his friends are not going so it taking it out on me.
I’ve never been on a girls trip before. The only trip I’ve ever been on is with family or with him. He’s been on trips where it’s just him and we were just talking about him going to see his best friend in Texas and I’m supporting him and telling him to go. But when it’s me I’m acting single and being irresponsible. So am I wrong? Should I sit this one out?
Unsurprisingly many are interpreting his actions as being controlling.
But let’s break down the situation. Initially the trip was going to be him and a few friends plus her and a few friends. His friends backed out so he decided he wasn’t going to go. She decided to convert it to a girl’s trip and he objected – whether rightly or wrongly is up for debate.
But there’s one aspect of this that many are overlooking in the quick bid to label him as controlling: her friends. It’s her friends – or at least one among them – that he doesn’t trust. That’s why he backed out when his friends did and turned against the idea of her turning the trip into a girl’s trip.
So why didn’t he say that instead of coming up with all kinds of excuses – e.g., finances when he was perfectly okay spending the money for the trip until his friends backed out?
The answer is plainly obvious to anyone who knows how men think. Most men are wired to avoid conflict in general, not just with the women in our lives. And saying outright he doesn’t want her to go on the trip with her friends because he doesn’t trust one or more of them would most likely lead to a fight. And he’s choosing a path that avoids saying the obvious – again, he doesn’t like or trust her friends – to keep the peace.
She’s already aware he’s not exactly cozy with her friends – “he’s not really cool with my friends”. And it doesn’t take a leap of faith to go from “he’s not really cool with my friends” to… “he doesn’t want me going on this trip because of my friends”.
It isn’t important for him to buddy up to her girlfriends – I never considered that with my wife’s friends. And doing that would likely not work out well if she’s in any way territorial or easily becomes jealous. But it is important that he not be on any kind of sour note with any of them.
Strangely, though, he’s likely to not bring up that he’s on any kind of sour note with any of her friends to avoid looking like he’s trying to get between her and the friend(s) in question. It isn’t difficult to picture how that comes across. Since a lot of people see their friends as an extension of themselves and identities, him questioning any of her friends comes across as questioning her.
So he avoids that to avoid a potentially larger conflict. And the disquiet manifests in other ways.
It’s excuses as to why she shouldn’t go on a girl’s trip or even just hang out with them. Various side comments or behaviors that show or imply he doesn’t trust one or more of them. Provided she isn’t ignoring or just dismissing them. In the same way he shouldn’t ignore or dismiss any disquiet she presents about any of his friends – just to get that out of the way in case you, dear reader, think I’m being one-sided here.
And that’s provided she doesn’t get defensive of any disquiet he does present. Since, again, to a lot of people, questioning any of their friends can often come across as questioning them.
And what’s worse… he can’t avoid looking controlling expressing his discomfort with her friends. He can’t avoid coming across as trying to get between them, separate her from them, regardless of how well-intentioned he is and how justified his reasoning. The hops aren’t difficult to make anymore based on where modern discourse regarding relationships has largely gone: “he’s trying to separate her from her friends” becomes “he’s trying to isolate her from everyone” or “he’s controlling and manipulative” to… “he’s abusing her!”
Meaning the friends would then try to pull her away from him. On the girl’s trip with the intent, express or implied, to attempt to convince her to leave him.
Because if he has a problem with her friends, he’s got to go… Right?






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